Archive for the ‘Seduction’ Category
1 Juggler’s Method
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:24 No CommentsOpen with anything. It can be opinion or a situation or introducing yourself or even bleeding on people. In dynamic situation (store and moving people) a situational opener tends to work well. But in clubs or static situations I like to just introduce myself. The key is not the opener. The opener does not matter [...]
1.1 Juggler’s 90 – 10 Rule
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:24 No CommentsKeep in mind Juggler’s 90-10 rule. That is, you must be prepared to provide 90 percent of the conversation at the beginning of an interaction with a woman until she is warmed up. If you go in and give 50%, expecting she will give 50% – like most conversations in the non- PU world, you [...]
About Feelings
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:23 No CommentsYou are thinking of feelings as if they were all heavy emotions and girly things. You can at anytime feel powerful, brilliant, lucky, vulnerable and naked, confused, happy, charged, anything at all. YOUR feelings and reactions to life are a range of your pallet. They are WHAT YOU ARE. There is nothing else. You either [...]
About Lying
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:23 No CommentsUnfortunately, AWG, I utterly disagree with that statement. While also agreeing with it to some extent (it is always good to be confident in who you are, etc.) it simply won’t be enough for most of us. Women aren’t going to respond positively to men who are very capable of talking in a way to [...]
Aggression and non verbal communication
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:23 No CommentsActually becoming upset at someone is something you should step on. Don’t let other people control your emotions. Being upset may work short term to get what you want, but longer term she and other people will see that they can manipulate your emotions. You probably don’t think that making someone angry has a payoff [...]
Always answer a HB’s question
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:22 No CommentsHow are you?
Excellent Thankyou, Have you ever had one of those days where you are thinking about an old friend and then out of the blue, you get a phone call from them, I mean you havent heard from them in weeks.. Its like E.S.P. Or something, Do you believe in anything like that ?
What [...]
Always answer the HB’s Question
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:22 No CommentsALWAYS answer the HB’s questions
You WANT a girl to ask you questions. This is the beginning of HER chasing YOU.
Unless you are fifteen, do not ruin this dynamic by giving constant evasive answers. You want her curious about you. Reward her curiosity by being interesting. Not by being a smart ass. Be Peirce Brosnan not [...]
Always Trade
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:22 No CommentsOne of the things that makes a person attractive is that persons ability to show emotions and feelings. And it is not healthy to keep feelings locked up inside. However, it is true that if you tell a girl, “I think you are great and I get a smile on my face every time I [...]
Become a Better Talker
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:21 No CommentsThe key to being on a conversational roll is understanding how a roll works.
Two concepts here:
1. Being on a roll is a lot about leading. It’s hard to be on a roll when you are not the one steering the car. If you are not already, try asking fewer questions and making more statements. Be [...]
Before Extraction
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:21 No CommentsHere are a few things that I always try to get her to do before I try the extraction. I consider them IOIs. I work on forcing each IOI.
1. She must be curious. She must be asking you questions. Of course the best questions are the ones which you lead her to ask. Try leading [...]
Being High Maintenance
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:21 No CommentsHow do you let on that you’re high maintenance and that they’d better treat you like a king?
I’m pretty direct about this. Most of the time I’ll just say, “Something I’ve discovered about myself is that, (pause for effect) I’m high maintenance. I like back rubs, receiving love notes, breakfast in bed, that sort of [...]
Cell phone interruptions, how to handle
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:20 No CommentsPut your hand on hers lightly while she goes to dig for the phone and say” Let it ring.”Very good Jay. Bold! And her accepting a command is one of the things you should try to get for a successful extraction.
Caller ID Block
if you always work at putting her in the mood there are very [...]
Cold Approach
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:20 No CommentsHere is a technique for the guys (and girls) who become nervous or suffer from anxiety when cold approaching a cute girl/guy. Here is what happens to many people: They see an attractive prospect. They think about approaching. Their heart begins to beat fast. They feel their body tighten up. They think, “I’m nervous. My [...]
Comebacks
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:20 No CommentsYou had the girl where you wanted her – chasing you.
Do not ask her a question here, that will turn around the dynamic which is already in your favor.
Your first impulse should be to get her to further question you.
Her: “Are you Steve?”
You: “Funny you should mention that because I have a brother who is [...]
Communicating that you are Qualifying them
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:19 No CommentsMost guys work this backwards. In general, with women you just met, you want to make statements. Avoid asking many questions. The exception are questions which you ask for screening purposes. These are tests which you make up for her to try to pass. This accomplishes a few things. It shows you have distinguishing taste.
It [...]
Confront him about his bad behavior
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:19 No CommentsThe key is to NOT make it about your emotions or about you. Make it about HIM and HIS limitations. Then he will try to improve your view of him and that is just where you want him. Always keep him chasing you.
I recommend you say something like this:
” Hi _______,
It is a real compliment [...]
Do not ask open ended questions
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:19 No CommentsInstead say open ended statements.
eg. what is she going to order
her: blah blah
you: talk… talk … talk.. I am ordering a big chocolate chip cookie and coffee. I have a special way of dipping the cookie in the coffee/milk. (installed a hook) when she asks what this is tell you will show her. Then after [...]
Don’t encourage people to laugh at you
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:18 No CommentsDon’t encourage people to laugh at you. Instead show them a guy who can help them laugh at life. A guy who can stir their imagination. Forget the idea about self-deprecating humor helping people relate to you and thus like you more. They will feel comfortable around you but your personality will have no edge. [...]
Double Dates
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:18 No CommentsIn this case you do not have to worry about the initial approach. That has already been done for you. Which is good because you don’t have any time to become an all around PUA. Just concentrate on the back end of the skills – transitioning from middle game to your bed.
Also, since this guy [...]
Eliciting values vs. ‘I am the prize’
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:18 No CommentsNo matter the method you use to discuss values the crucial difference here is weather you put your values first or hers. Yes, humans adapt. But let her adapt to you. You are a force of nature. Not the other way around.
If everyone of us PUA took the time to sit at a table and [...]
Entertaining a group
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:17 No CommentsCheck out the group before approaching. See how tight the girl is with the guys. You do not have to always open with the guys. If she doesn’t seem tight with the guys then open with her or the group in general. Myself, I do not spend much time befriending guys in groups. A big [...]
Forcing IOIs
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:17 No CommentsFor guys, like me who are impatient by nature and don’t like to waste time by waiting for IOIs. You can figure out what IOIs you want and then ‘trick’ or command them from girls.
For instance, these are some of the IOIs you force:
1. Body posture – Tell her to sit with the proper posture. [...]
Girlfriend Test
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:17 No CommentsHere is the girlfriend test per request. It is really very simple. When a girl checks your status. “Do you have a girlfriend?”
Say, “To be my girlfriend (or lover) is a prestigious and exclusive thing. There’s a test.”Curiosity being what it is, she will want to take the test. There are three multiple-choice questions. Take [...]
Group Theory
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:16 No CommentsI define a group as three or more people. It is rare to find a cohesive group with more than six members. These size groups typically are broken up into splinter groups. Look to approach the group members which are on the edges or less involved in the group conversation – these will rarely be [...]
Handling Situations
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:16 No CommentsOne method which has worked many times has come out of my seduction ideas on striving for balance. You must restore balance. Then recognize the moment it is achieved as a new start. When someone gives you shit, you give it back in the same quantity and quality, no more or less. In that moment [...]
Hooks and Pauses
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:16 No CommentsHooks and Pauses
Puzzles…
You must be big enough to control the situation while at the same time look like you are not trying. You must approach while not seeming like you need to approach. You must entertain a group while not ‘working’ at
it. Pick-up artistry is full of these riddles. But there are solutions. One such [...]
How to handle when someone demands
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:15 No CommentsYour problem here is that you have a situation where you want to do what is right by opening the door for someone. But you don’t like a third party to ‘demand’ you do it. Like if you were gathering up cloths and soap and a bucket and then to go wash your car and [...]
If she likes you
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:15 No CommentsIt should in theory be easier if she likes you at first sight. But in my experience the conversation ratio can be even more pronounced. If she likes you she can get nervous and clam up or say really dumb things from the pressure of your god-like aura. I have had it all kinds of [...]
Lesson to learn
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:15 No CommentsThere are many guys out there who try this way of showing interests in her interests. You can think of it as an advanced AFC technique. This can work for 8s and below. But 9-10s and girls who have had a lot of
experience with guys hitting on them will not respond well to this kind [...]
Keeping a straight face
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:14 No CommentsRemember that what you say is only half the equation. Practice making the right expression to go along with your words. You may not be doing that, hence your face is free to laugh. Make sense?
Personally I DO NOT use cocky and try to keep funny to a minimum. But I digress.
Don’t laugh at your [...]
Locking in your Target
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:14 No CommentsI know this is a sacred MM thing but ignoring the target and focusing on the obstacles is a mistake that can be a waste of time and resources.
Approach the target FIRST.
” Hi, my name is Bob. I have to tell you something very important.”
Here is where you measure the situation. Is she receptive already? [...]
Make yourself needed
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:14 No CommentsI know you mean well breakfast, but you are encouraging guys to pander to women (albeit in an artful and well worded way). You need to turn this around. Don’t try to change girls for the better. They should be trying to change YOU. For instance, a girl says to me that she likes sky [...]
Miscellaneous Points
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:14 No CommentsIs this ‘jerk’ behavior?
Hey Bobo,
Yes, you are on to something.
Jerks do get laid but they have to work at fighting the whole time.
IMHO There are a couple of reasons so many guys try this character on (including yours truly years ago)
1. Society brain washes us into thinking it should be difficult to get laid. Being [...]
Movie Rating
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:13 No CommentsHere is the post of the movie rated routine for Tyler and anyone else who wanted it. One note of caution. I don’t advocate an approach that uses free entertaining. These things will pack a much more powerful punch if you use them after you have set her up to chase and be curious about [...]
On getting into LTR
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:13 No CommentsIf you want a LTR, act as if you are not looking for one. ‘Let’ the girl convince you into having one. Remember there is nothing AFC about wanting to be in a relationship. Having a great girlfriend is one of the payoffs of getting good at PU. And falling in love is one of [...]
Overcoming the ‘Age Difference’ problem
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:12 No CommentsAge… Good topic. You want the girl sarging and closing you. Any topic that she brings up that is about you is good. Don’t be afraid to discuss anything about yourself. That is where you want things. The longer YOU are the subject the better. If you turn the conversation away from your age (or [...]
Phone Guidelines
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:12 No CommentsThis will help some guys who have difficulties over the telephone. People with very different styles form mine may not consider this useful. But for most this should help.
1. No matter who answers the phone announce who you are, “Hi this is Juggler. Is Katie there?”
This shows you are proud and confident to be you [...]
Phone Sarging Advice
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:12 No CommentsBut, I am at a loss regarding how toinitiate a physical connection on the phone. Come to think of it, this advice could definitely help my off-phone game too.
Well, everybody’s game is a little different. but maybe if I explained how I like to handle this it might give you some clues as to what [...]
Phone Techniques
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:11 No CommentsForgotten Name
Anyway:
ring, ring, ring
Her: “Hello.”
You: “Hello, this is Smithy. Who is this?!”
Her: “This is Katie.”
You: “Katie! Ha ha, I meant to call my sister. Cell phones are wacky. Sometimes I think we should just use paper cups and string. But I’ll deal. You will just have to answer the question I was going to ask [...]
Pulling 1 Girl away from a Group of Girls
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:11 No CommentsIf her friends talk to you, try twisting around every topic so it is about your girl or you – conversational jujitsu. The others will grow bored of this topic and peel off while she will stay. At this point do not get sidetracked by fluff or these other girl’s life details. Be nice but [...]
Purpose of Story
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:10 No CommentsThe purpose of any story or ‘material’ should NOT be to entertain. it should be to ‘ATTRACT’. you attract by showing your humanity (your feelings and reactions to life).
How did you feel about the dog?
You could have said, “my neighbor’s dog was in front of his house. I love this dog. He is so affectionate [...]
Questions vs. Statements
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:10 No CommentsThis is in part a response to the ‘best way to relate to women thread’
A QUESTION WEAKENS:
A question is a request for information. It is asking for something from someone else. In a sense this puts you in the weaker position. Not that seduction is all about control of another person but to be successful [...]
Rapport Building
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:10 No CommentsForget mirroring. Forget matching her tone. Girls are typically worried, scared and inhibited. You do not want to be any of those things. This mirroring stuff may work for getting the boss to like you so you get a raise. But it is not what you want to do for seduction. Girls want to be [...]
Seducer ON/OFF
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:09 No CommentsThink about what the nature of ON is.
I think of ON as when you are in the frame of being very open. Your guard is lowered and you can think aloud in front of people. Your opinions, emotions and humor flow freely. There is no stage fright. You are just expressing.
Now, in some people’s mind, [...]
Showing anger to woman
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:09 No CommentsDon’t get angry.
You should be effecting her emotions. Not the other way around. What you are looking for is respect you will gain respect when you can handle her with strength while not using bullying tactics. You do this like the mob guys, put your arm around her, say something nice with honey in your [...]
State Change & Extraction
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:09 No CommentsThe great thing about SOIs is that they can put you in a frame where the girl and you are talking about the two of you having sex. She can not do this without imagining having sex with you. A good SOI is really a sensually painted picture of the two of you doing pleasurable [...]
Story Telling
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:08 No CommentsA good story should not be to entertain or show that you are a cool guy. A good story is used to attract. Cut all the unnecessary facts from a story and just talk about how you react to the situation. Remember to cut all details down to the bare essentials that make your story [...]
Street Approaches
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:08 No CommentsThe key to the street pick-up close is not what close you use but how you do it. It has to be performed like it just popped into your head. And always on a peak. After you say something funny, before the laugh totally is gone say,” Hey, this might be wacky, but let’s go [...]
Structure
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:07 No CommentsIt is important to structure you encounters with girls. Within that structure plan the close.
1. Opening 1 Minute
2. Set a mood or entertain 10 Minutes
3. Qualify/EV 5 Minutes
4. Close
This structure is not based on indicators of interest. If she is there after you set the mood that is your indicator – you close. Sure if [...]
Take time and talk about yourself
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:07 No CommentsTake time and talk about yourself
Next you asked her 3 questions in a row real quick.
You: “So how are you doing anyway?”
Her: “Good”
You: “You are doing good?”
Her: “Very good.”
You: “So you guys doing anything today?” (I think?)
Her: “A yeah, I have to go to school and do some stuff.”
You may be just nervous here. But [...]
The Last Words on Compliments
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:07 No CommentsA compliment CAN successfully open. However, with all respect to my good friend Styles, it can easily harm your middle game and close. Sure some guys are good enough that they can overcome this but they probably
don’t realize they can rearrange things so they come off more powerful. In general a compliment is too about [...]
Using SOI
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:05 No CommentsThe dynamic I setup is having the girl chase me. So it seems as if you could use SOI to the same effectiveness as I have. But who knows… there are many subtleties.
IMHO
At some point you are going to have to SOI. If you try to take her clothes off, that is an SOI. You [...]


